[2007-11-17 22:01:28 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Hello all, I'm Greg Rose, currently President of the Interim Board.
[2007-11-17 22:01:43 UTC]<Greg_Rose> I call the meeting to order.
[2007-11-17 22:01:59 UTC]<Greg_Rose> I will allow 5 minutes for latecomers to join
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[2007-11-17 22:03:26 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> romagny, Kara ?
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[2007-11-17 22:03:48 UTC]=-= RobertCruikshank is now known as Robert_Cruikshank
[2007-11-17 22:03:57 UTC]<Greg_Rose> As chair, I don't particularly mind anyone speaking, but when I call a vote
[2007-11-17 22:04:07 UTC]<Greg_Rose> please only valid members respond
[2007-11-17 22:04:27 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Greg_Rose, we can work through it with moderation, if you prefer
[2007-11-17 22:04:38 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Greg_Rose, once you are ready to start, please tell me
[2007-11-17 22:05:28 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> Well I'm ready
[2007-11-17 22:05:32 UTC]<Greg_Rose> OK, ready to start.
[2007-11-17 22:05:49 UTC]=-= Mode #AGM +m  by Evaldo_Gardenali
[2007-11-17 22:05:56 UTC]<Greg_Rose> First, anyone who believes they have proxies, please state so.
[2007-11-17 22:06:18 UTC]=-= Mode #AGM -m  by Evaldo_Gardenali
[2007-11-17 22:06:32 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> <now you can talk>
[2007-11-17 22:06:47 UTC]<teus_hagen> Ihave no proxy
[2007-11-17 22:07:02 UTC]<Jens_Paul> I have no proxy
[2007-11-17 22:07:12 UTC]<Sebastian_Kueppers> I have no proxy
[2007-11-17 22:07:31 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> No proxy here ether
[2007-11-17 22:07:41 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> no proxy
[2007-11-17 22:08:00 UTC]<Greg_Rose> OK, so most of us are members voting on behalf of themselves.
[2007-11-17 22:08:20 UTC]* Evaldo_Gardenali as current secretary notes that no proxy letters have been submitted
[2007-11-17 22:08:32 UTC]<Philipp_Guehring> I am not a member
[2007-11-17 22:08:56 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Please see the agenda at http://wiki.cacert.org/wiki/NextAnnualGeneralMeeting
[2007-11-17 22:09:18 UTC]<Greg_Rose> We have 4 prospective new members:
[2007-11-17 22:09:33 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Correction, three
[2007-11-17 22:09:55 UTC]<Greg_Rose> John Cagnol, Matthias Subik, Rasika Dayarathna
[2007-11-17 22:10:31 UTC]<Greg_Rose> If no objections we will accept their membership (you have 1 minute to object)
[2007-11-17 22:11:14 UTC]=-= Mode #AGM +vvvv Gary_Lee_Adams Guillaume_Romagny Jens_Paul Robert_Cruikshank by Evaldo_Gardenali
[2007-11-17 22:11:15 UTC]=-= Mode #AGM +vv Sebastian_Kueppers teus_hagen by Evaldo_Gardenali
[2007-11-17 22:11:54 UTC]=-= Mode #AGM +m  by Evaldo_Gardenali
[2007-11-17 22:12:10 UTC]<Greg_Rose> OK, welcome to new members.
[2007-11-17 22:12:49 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Next we need motion to ratify minutes of previous meetings.
[2007-11-17 22:13:05 UTC]<Greg_Rose> These are the AGM in 2005, and the SGM in May this year.
[2007-11-17 22:13:13 UTC]<Gary_Lee_Adams> Move to approve
[2007-11-17 22:13:32 UTC]* Evaldo_Gardenali seconds Gary_Lee_Adams' motion
[2007-11-17 22:13:39 UTC]<Jens_Paul> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:13:45 UTC]<teus_hagen> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:13:46 UTC]<Sebastian_Kueppers> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:13:47 UTC]* Guillaume_Romagny second
[2007-11-17 22:13:52 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:13:58 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Thanks. Motion passed.
[2007-11-17 22:14:39 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Next there is a board report on the Wiki. It only went up recently. Anyone need time to read it?
[2007-11-17 22:14:53 UTC]<teus_hagen> no
[2007-11-17 22:14:58 UTC]<Sebastian_Kueppers> no
[2007-11-17 22:15:24 UTC]<Guillaume_Romagny> yes
[2007-11-17 22:15:27 UTC]<Jens_Paul> yes
[2007-11-17 22:15:50 UTC]<Greg_Rose> While you're reading it, Evaldo needs to report
[2007-11-17 22:17:09 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Evaldo?
[2007-11-17 22:17:12 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> We currently have  50 members on the Association, 20 of which have paid up and are financial, 1 who is pending payment via snail mail, 17 members have responded to the call for membership record update
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[2007-11-17 22:19:43 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Dan, please set /nick Full_Name so we can tell whether you're a member or not.
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[2007-11-17 22:20:05 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Are JP and GR ready yet?
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[2007-11-17 22:20:10 UTC]<Jens_Paul> One last minute addition to the board report: deadline for existing assurers will be expanded to probably 3 month after Assurer Testing Systems goes live, 31th december was a bit to short to allow everyone to pass the test. This was neccessary as the final decissions on the test system could not be completed before this week.
[2007-11-17 22:21:05 UTC]<Guillaume_Romagny> Greg_Rose : yes
[2007-11-17 22:21:15 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Noted, thanks. With that, do I hear a motion to accept the report?
[2007-11-17 22:21:22 UTC]<Gary_Lee_Adams> Move to approve
[2007-11-17 22:21:27 UTC]<Jens_Paul> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:21:28 UTC]* Evaldo_Gardenali seconds Gary_Lee_Adams' motion
[2007-11-17 22:21:30 UTC]* Guillaume_Romagny seconds
[2007-11-17 22:21:35 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:21:42 UTC]<teus_hagen> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:21:46 UTC]<Sebastian_Kueppers> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:22:31 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Thanks, passed. I propose to accept all four treasurer's reports in one bundle unless someone objects.
[2007-11-17 22:22:47 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Rob, please present the reports briefly.
[2007-11-17 22:23:24 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> This is the first time CAcert has had the chance to prepare Fin Reports so we have 4 different reports
[2007-11-17 22:23:44 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> one for each financial year since 2003
[2007-11-17 22:24:04 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Note Financial Year is July-June.
[2007-11-17 22:24:10 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> +---------------------------------------------------------------+
[2007-11-17 22:24:11 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦                    Balance Sheet 2003/2004                    ¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:11 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦                       17th October 2007                       ¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:11 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦---------------------------------------------------------------¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:11 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦                            Assets                             ¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:12 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦                                                               ¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:12 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦Current Assets:                                                ¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:14 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦Opening Balance                               $0               ¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:14 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦Total Incoming                            $4,894               ¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:16 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦Total Outgoing                           ($3,572)              ¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:16 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦Cash                                      $1,322               ¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:18 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦     Total Current Assets                                $1,322¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:18 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦                                                               ¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:20 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦Total Assets                                             $1,322¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:20 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦---------------------------------------------------------------¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:22 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦                    Liabilities and Capital                    ¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:22 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦                                                               ¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:24 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦Total Liabilities                                             0¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:24 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦                                                               ¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:27 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦Total Capital                                            $1,322¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:27 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦---------------------------------------------------------------¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:29 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦Total Liabilities and Capital                            $1,322¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:29 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> +---------------------------------------------------------------+
[2007-11-17 22:24:31 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> First report for 03/04
[2007-11-17 22:24:49 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> +---------------------------------------------------------------+
[2007-11-17 22:24:49 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦                    Balance Sheet 2004/2005                    ¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:50 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦                       17th October 2007                       ¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:50 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦---------------------------------------------------------------¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:50 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦                            Assets                             ¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:51 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦                                                               ¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:51 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦Current Assets:                                                ¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:52 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦Opening Balance                           $1,322               ¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:52 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦Total Incoming                           $12,762               ¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:55 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦Total Outgoing                           ($9,391)              ¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:55 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦Cash                                      $4,693               ¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:56 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦     Total Current Assets                                $4,693¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:56 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦     Net Income for Year                                  3,372¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:59 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦---------------------------------------------------------------¦
[2007-11-17 22:24:59 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦                                                               ¦
[2007-11-17 22:25:00 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦Total Assets                                             $4,693¦
[2007-11-17 22:25:01 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦---------------------------------------------------------------¦
[2007-11-17 22:25:03 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦                   Liabilities and Capital                     ¦
[2007-11-17 22:25:03 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦                                                               ¦
[2007-11-17 22:25:05 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦Total Liabilities                                             0¦
[2007-11-17 22:25:05 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦                                                               ¦
[2007-11-17 22:25:07 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦Total Capital                                            $4,693¦
[2007-11-17 22:25:07 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦---------------------------------------------------------------¦
[2007-11-17 22:25:08 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦Total Liabilities and Capital                            $4,693¦
[2007-11-17 22:25:08 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> +---------------------------------------------------------------+
[2007-11-17 22:25:10 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> 04-05
[2007-11-17 22:25:13 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> +------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
[2007-11-17 22:25:14 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦                           Balance Sheet 2005/2006                            ¦
[2007-11-17 22:25:14 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ¦                              17th October 2007                               ¦
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[2007-11-17 22:25:27 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Oops.
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[2007-11-17 22:25:44 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Robert_Cruikshank, 2005/2006 is where it stopped
[2007-11-17 22:25:58 UTC]=-= Mode #AGM +v Robert_Cruikshank by Evaldo_Gardenali
[2007-11-17 22:26:14 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> ok will have to point you to the last two in the wiki
[2007-11-17 22:26:33 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> http://wiki.cacert.org/wiki/Robert_Cruikshank/FinReport0607
[2007-11-17 22:26:47 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> and
[2007-11-17 22:26:49 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> http://wiki.cacert.org/wiki/Robert_Cruikshank/FinReport0506
[2007-11-17 22:26:55 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> too big ro dump
[2007-11-17 22:27:33 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Can you say that the association is solvent?
[2007-11-17 22:27:49 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> Yes I can
[2007-11-17 22:28:02 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Quetions?
[2007-11-17 22:28:12 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> none from me
[2007-11-17 22:28:13 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> With the support from various organisations we are in good condition but not yet self sufficient
[2007-11-17 22:28:26 UTC]<Jens_Paul> One question:
[2007-11-17 22:28:32 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> yep
[2007-11-17 22:28:59 UTC]<Jens_Paul> The support from other organisations (like server hosting) are not mentioned but of enormous value. Is this OK according to AU law?
[2007-11-17 22:29:41 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> As I can't put a value on this support and it doesn't hit the bank account in any way I haven't
[2007-11-17 22:30:09 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> I can include something going forward but will need a good evaluation of what is being done
[2007-11-17 22:30:41 UTC]<Guillaume_Romagny> Have all accounts been found and secured ?
[2007-11-17 22:30:49 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> Yes
[2007-11-17 22:30:49 UTC]<Jens_Paul> OK, so we can assume that it is fine to leave it out as it is off records. Thank you.
[2007-11-17 22:31:26 UTC]<Greg_Rose> I believe it is fine for a not-for-profit association.
[2007-11-17 22:31:50 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Any motion to accept the financial reports?
[2007-11-17 22:31:51 UTC]<Gary_Lee_Adams> Move to approve.
[2007-11-17 22:31:55 UTC]<Jens_Paul> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:31:58 UTC]<teus_hagen> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:31:59 UTC]<Guillaume_Romagny> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:31:59 UTC]* Evaldo_Gardenali seconds Gary_Lee_Adams' motion
[2007-11-17 22:32:02 UTC]<Sebastian_Kueppers> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:32:10 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Thanks.
[2007-11-17 22:32:28 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Next item: board elections.
[2007-11-17 22:32:54 UTC]<Greg_Rose> There are 5 members (all present) nominated to the board.
[2007-11-17 22:33:18 UTC]<Greg_Rose> There are 5 open positions on the board.
[2007-11-17 22:33:27 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Any new nominations from the floor?
[2007-11-17 22:33:51 UTC]<teus_hagen> not noted
[2007-11-17 22:33:53 UTC]<Jens_Paul> For the records, names of the nominated persons?
[2007-11-17 22:33:54 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> no other nominations have been received by the secretary
[2007-11-17 22:33:58 UTC]<Greg_Rose> If not, we can simply declare those nominated to be elected.
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[2007-11-17 22:34:12 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Name
[2007-11-17 22:34:13 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> 	
[2007-11-17 22:34:13 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Nominated by
[2007-11-17 22:34:13 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> 	
[2007-11-17 22:34:13 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Seconded by
[2007-11-17 22:34:14 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> 	
[2007-11-17 22:34:15 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Accepted
[2007-11-17 22:34:17 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> 	
[2007-11-17 22:34:19 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Comments and link
[2007-11-17 22:34:21 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Greg Rose
[2007-11-17 22:34:25 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> 	
[2007-11-17 22:34:27 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Guillaume Romagny
[2007-11-17 22:34:29 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> 	
[2007-11-17 22:34:31 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Stephen Saletta
[2007-11-17 22:34:33 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> 	
[2007-11-17 22:34:35 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Yes
[2007-11-17 22:34:37 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> 	
[2007-11-17 22:34:39 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> GregRose
[2007-11-17 22:34:41 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Robert Cruikshank
[2007-11-17 22:34:43 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> 	
[2007-11-17 22:34:45 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Guillaume Romagny
[2007-11-17 22:34:47 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> 	
[2007-11-17 22:34:49 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Stephen Saletta
[2007-11-17 22:34:51 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> 	
[2007-11-17 22:34:55 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Yes
[2007-11-17 22:34:57 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> 	
[2007-11-17 22:35:00 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> RobertCruikshank
[2007-11-17 22:35:01 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Teus Hagen
[2007-11-17 22:35:03 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> 	
[2007-11-17 22:35:05 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Guillaume Romagny
[2007-11-17 22:35:07 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> 	
[2007-11-17 22:35:09 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Stephen Saletta
[2007-11-17 22:35:11 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> 	
[2007-11-17 22:35:13 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Yes
[2007-11-17 22:35:15 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> 	
[2007-11-17 22:35:17 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> TeusHagen
[2007-11-17 22:35:20 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Evaldo Gardenali
[2007-11-17 22:35:21 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> 	
[2007-11-17 22:35:25 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Guillaume Romagny
[2007-11-17 22:35:27 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> 	
[2007-11-17 22:35:29 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Stephen Saletta
[2007-11-17 22:35:31 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> 	
[2007-11-17 22:35:33 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Yes
[2007-11-17 22:35:35 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> 	
[2007-11-17 22:35:39 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> EvaldoGardenali
[2007-11-17 22:35:41 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Guillaume Romagny
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[2007-11-17 22:35:43 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> 	
[2007-11-17 22:35:45 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Stephen Saletta
[2007-11-17 22:35:47 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> 	
[2007-11-17 22:35:49 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Gary Adams
[2007-11-17 22:35:52 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> 	
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[2007-11-17 22:35:55 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Yes
[2007-11-17 22:35:57 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> 	
[2007-11-17 22:36:00 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Guillaume ROMAGNY 
[2007-11-17 22:36:01 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> oops, ended up the wrong format
[2007-11-17 22:36:04 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> nominated members are: Greg Rose, Robert Cruikshank, Teus Hagen, Guillaume Romagny, Evaldo Gardenali
[2007-11-17 22:36:08 UTC]<Greg_Rose> That is the table at the bottom of the agenda page.
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[2007-11-17 22:36:26 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Last call for new nomination?
[2007-11-17 22:36:55 UTC]<Greg_Rose> OK, I declare Greg Rose, Robert Cruikshank, Teus Hagen, Guillaume Romagny, Evaldo Gardenali elected.
[2007-11-17 22:37:21 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Thank you to the candidates for being prepared to take on the role for the next year.
[2007-11-17 22:37:52 UTC]<teus_hagen> Thanks I do
[2007-11-17 22:38:14 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Under Australian law, we have to appoint a Public Officer (resident in New South Wales)
[2007-11-17 22:38:30 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Robert has indicated willingness.
[2007-11-17 22:38:31 UTC]* Evaldo_Gardenali moves to confirm Robert Cruikshank as Public Officer
[2007-11-17 22:38:42 UTC]<Gary_Lee_Adams> Second
[2007-11-17 22:38:47 UTC]<teus_hagen> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:38:48 UTC]* Guillaume_Romagny seconds
[2007-11-17 22:38:50 UTC]<Sebastian_Kueppers> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:38:57 UTC]<Jens_Paul> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:39:23 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Done, thanks.
[2007-11-17 22:39:48 UTC]<Greg_Rose> The interim board approved a number of policy documents to bootstrap the organization.
[2007-11-17 22:40:16 UTC]<Greg_Rose> But we thought it would be good to have the AGM ratify those.
[2007-11-17 22:40:41 UTC]<Greg_Rose> The docs are all referenced from the AGM page.
[2007-11-17 22:41:11 UTC]<Greg_Rose> They are the Community Agreement, Policy on Policy Documents, and Dispute Resolution Policy.
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[2007-11-17 22:42:20 UTC]<Greg_Rose> I don't propose that we go read them now; if you haven't already don't worry about it.
[2007-11-17 22:42:32 UTC]* Evaldo_Gardenali moves to approve the Policy on Policy and Dispute resolution policy, and to approve the Concept on the Community Agreement, as the document is being modified
[2007-11-17 22:42:44 UTC]<Gary_Lee_Adams> Second
[2007-11-17 22:42:52 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:42:53 UTC]* Guillaume_Romagny seconds the motion
[2007-11-17 22:42:55 UTC]<teus_hagen> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:42:57 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Note that the CCA and DRP are still works in progress anyway.
[2007-11-17 22:43:00 UTC]<Sebastian_Kueppers> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:43:10 UTC]<Greg_Rose> OK, thanks.
[2007-11-17 22:43:17 UTC]<Jens_Paul> Aye, as all policies can change in time
[2007-11-17 22:43:51 UTC]<Greg_Rose> There are four resolutions to be presented and voted.
[2007-11-17 22:44:37 UTC]* Evaldo_Gardenali notes that one more motion got recorded
[2007-11-17 22:45:13 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> to routinely publish all minutes and decisions of general meetings, except where a special motion overrides, proposed by Evaldo, seconded by Teus
[2007-11-17 22:45:16 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Hmm, yes, more in the table below. We'll have to fix the main agenda. Please look at the table at bottom.
[2007-11-17 22:45:43 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Vote on that motion please.
[2007-11-17 22:45:46 UTC]<Jens_Paul> Move to approve
[2007-11-17 22:45:47 UTC]<Gary_Lee_Adams> Move to approve.
[2007-11-17 22:45:52 UTC]<Gary_Lee_Adams> Second
[2007-11-17 22:45:56 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> aye
[2007-11-17 22:45:59 UTC]<Guillaume_Romagny> aye
[2007-11-17 22:46:01 UTC]<Sebastian_Kueppers> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:46:02 UTC]<teus_hagen> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:46:04 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Already approved/seconded, just vote.
[2007-11-17 22:46:05 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:46:10 UTC]<Greg_Rose> OK, thanks.
[2007-11-17 22:46:13 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> to routinely publish all minutes and decisions of committee (board) meetings, expect where a special motion overrides, proposed by Evaldo, seconded by Teus
[2007-11-17 22:46:39 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Votes please?
[2007-11-17 22:46:40 UTC]<Gary_Lee_Adams> Move to approve.
[2007-11-17 22:46:40 UTC]<Sebastian_Kueppers> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:46:41 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:46:41 UTC]<Jens_Paul> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:46:44 UTC]<teus_hagen> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:46:55 UTC]<Guillaume_Romagny> aye
[2007-11-17 22:47:04 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Thanks. Next.
[2007-11-17 22:47:08 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> to routinely review all confidential minutes and decisions by independent party such as a CAcert Arbitrator, where made by special motion (above), proposed by Evaldo, seconded by Teus
[2007-11-17 22:47:14 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:47:15 UTC]<Jens_Paul> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:47:18 UTC]<teus_hagen> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:47:18 UTC]<Sebastian_Kueppers> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:47:20 UTC]<Gary_Lee_Adams> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:47:29 UTC]<Guillaume_Romagny> aye
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[2007-11-17 22:48:34 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Thanks. Now a motion to amend the rules. I need to check whether we have enough members present for the motion to be valid, but that can be done later.
[2007-11-17 22:48:44 UTC]<teus_hagen> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:48:48 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> to amend the CAcert, Inc. membership rules 2.12(1)c: has accumulated three years of unpaid membership fees, proposed by Evaldo, seconded by Teus
[2007-11-17 22:49:05 UTC]<Jens_Paul> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:49:05 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:49:06 UTC]<teus_hagen> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:49:07 UTC]<Gary_Lee_Adams> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:49:11 UTC]<Guillaume_Romagny> Aye !
[2007-11-17 22:49:11 UTC]<Sebastian_Kueppers> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:49:21 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Chair votes aye
[2007-11-17 22:49:26 UTC]<Greg_Rose> thanks.
[2007-11-17 22:49:34 UTC]<teus_hagen> AYe
[2007-11-17 22:49:36 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> "Vote by signed email on General Meetings", Proposal to add on Article 33 of the Rules of CAcert Inc. after Art 33 (2): (3) Votes may be entered by signed email. Vote should have a clear indication of the resolution voted for and should state favor, abstain or neutral as vote. Signed email should be received minimal 1 hour before the meeting by the Secretary and be acknowledged by the Secretary., proposed by Teus, seconded by Jens
[2007-11-17 22:49:43 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> aye
[2007-11-17 22:49:46 UTC]<Jens_Paul> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:49:49 UTC]<Guillaume_Romagny> aye
[2007-11-17 22:49:51 UTC]<teus_hagen> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:49:59 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:50:02 UTC]<Gary_Lee_Adams> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:50:03 UTC]<Sebastian_Kueppers> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:50:11 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Chair votes aye.
[2007-11-17 22:50:29 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Thanks, I think that concludes the scheduled agenda. Any other business?
[2007-11-17 22:50:38 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> not from my part
[2007-11-17 22:50:46 UTC]<teus_hagen> not for me
[2007-11-17 22:50:51 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> No
[2007-11-17 22:50:51 UTC]<Sebastian_Kueppers> neither from me
[2007-11-17 22:51:07 UTC]<Guillaume_Romagny> I would support " to publish the names of those in the Membership Registry"
[2007-11-17 22:51:35 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Guillaume_Romagny, do you propose it?
[2007-11-17 22:51:40 UTC]<Guillaume_Romagny> yes
[2007-11-17 22:51:43 UTC]<Gary_Lee_Adams> Move to approve.
[2007-11-17 22:51:44 UTC]<Jens_Paul> I support this as well, but as it is a rivacy issue, we have to talk to all members, I guess?
[2007-11-17 22:51:54 UTC]<Jens_Paul> Privacy not rivacy ..
[2007-11-17 22:52:10 UTC]<teus_hagen> agree we need more acks from membership
[2007-11-17 22:52:16 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Seconder, just to obey the rules?
[2007-11-17 22:52:22 UTC]<Jens_Paul> I second
[2007-11-17 22:52:41 UTC]<Greg_Rose> votes from others?
[2007-11-17 22:52:50 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> aye
[2007-11-17 22:52:53 UTC]<Sebastian_Kueppers> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:52:54 UTC]<teus_hagen> aye
[2007-11-17 22:53:04 UTC]<Jens_Paul> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:53:09 UTC]<Guillaume_Romagny> So we can add : "to publish the names of those in the Membership Registry if member accepts listing"
[2007-11-17 22:53:30 UTC]<teus_hagen> yes my understanding.
[2007-11-17 22:53:42 UTC]<Guillaume_Romagny> ok
[2007-11-17 22:53:48 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Passed, thanks, with the understanding of "opt in".
[2007-11-17 22:53:49 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:53:55 UTC]<Guillaume_Romagny> aye
[2007-11-17 22:53:58 UTC]<teus_hagen> AYe
[2007-11-17 22:54:06 UTC]<Jens_Paul> Aye
[2007-11-17 22:54:07 UTC]<Gary_Lee_Adams> That info is already being provided to the AU Govt if I understand Evaldo.
[2007-11-17 22:54:36 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> Through what process?
[2007-11-17 22:54:39 UTC]<Greg_Rose> I don't think so; there is just a requirement that the Secretary maintain a list.
[2007-11-17 22:54:46 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Gary_Lee_Adams, we need to keep records up to date, but lodging is not mandatory
[2007-11-17 22:54:57 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> Gary_Lee_Adams, so far, we have not lodged it
[2007-11-17 22:54:59 UTC]<Gary_Lee_Adams> Sorry, my misunderstanding.
[2007-11-17 22:55:11 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> The OFT only have the name of the Public officer (No others)
[2007-11-17 22:55:32 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Last call for new business
[2007-11-17 22:55:48 UTC]<teus_hagen> NOT for me
[2007-11-17 22:55:52 UTC]<Robert_Cruikshank> no
[2007-11-17 22:55:55 UTC]<Evaldo_Gardenali> not for me
[2007-11-17 22:55:57 UTC]<Sebastian_Kueppers> no
[2007-11-17 22:55:59 UTC]<Jens_Paul> To thank the interim board for getting Cacert back on track, and a special thanks to Robert for creating those financial statements which was a lot of work! Good luck and congratulations to the new board!
[2007-11-17 22:56:13 UTC]<Greg_Rose> Thanks to all participants. I declare the meeting closed.